I have felt my fervor for studying and deepening my walk with the Lord be VERY attacked by your making a similar comment. Why, because God has called them to that profession. When mankind was childlike, before Christs presence in the world of Gods creation, we had the Old Testament and its teachings to guide us. In Galatians 2, Paul says that he opposed Peter for not being straightforward about the truth of the gospel (Gal. These people are frauds, phonies. The pandemic has caused people to drift from so many things faith, church, relationships. Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. In Apollos case, his deficient teaching was an error of omission. Marrying and having babies was supposed to be my highest aspiration in life. Occult Sorcery I am sad to think that you guys would call yourselves Christians when you dont act like it. I will live my life by His example, by His word and how the Holy Spirit reveals the word to me, not by man/woman alone and definitely not by this article or ministries as such. Here is a Pastrix Caine sermon review. I thank God for all of the women who followed the call of God and took up their crosses, facing so much opposition in the process. And if you think God didnt use women to lead men and women in scripture In numerous instances, the Bible commends believers to ostracize those who will not repent of their false teaching. I dont know why I go searching for these articles. evil men and impostors deceiving and being deceived (2 Ti m. 3:13) To whoever wrote this, I pray that love invades your heart for a daughter of the King. (I mean, isnt that the point?) I dont recall anyone telling you to shut up and do as Im told, you my friend have a chip on your shoulder, and are having a hard time distinguishing between false gospel, womens rights, and your perceive notion of what is biblical and what isnt. When the bestselling author, internationally acclaimed speaker and leader of multiple international organisations appears on our morning Zoom call, she is straight off the treadmill, laughing and apologising for her appearance in a sorry-not-sorry way that epitomises her no-nonsense attitude. janv. We recognise their continuing connection to the land and waters, and thank them for protecting this land and its ecosystems since time immemorial. I am perfectly okay with agreeing to disagree. Does the author of this article have the power of discerning a persons heart? However, by the end of the course all of our eyes were opened to identify animistic and occult practices. Yes, Lydia was the LEADER of her house church and played a key role in getting her family baptized. Get encouraging stories and messages from Billy Graham delivered to your inbox every weekend. This year, people have had to cope with things they never thought theyd have to cope with. I have heard Ms. Caine speak at two different womens conferences (It is my understanding that the Bible is ok with women teaching women), and her call for us (as women) to not be distracted by todays divisive, politically chaotic climate and to remain focused on winning souls for Christ spoke to my heart. (2 Peter 3:16). Having worked with A21, which is a top flight global organization fighting human trafficking, and seeing that the common thread in this and other articles criticizing Caine was the fact that she dares to preach to menwhile ignoring the prophetesses and judges in the Bible that God choseI was inclined to support her. Yes I agree with that, those women who followed the call of God, were and are obedient to God are a treasure in the church, good and Noble women that hear and follow their Master, not the worldly ones that ensnare the gullible, the undiscerning, the ones too lazy to read scripture, those are led astray by these false teachers. This slideshow is only available for subscribers.Please log in or subscribe to view the slideshow. I dont see you recommending ANYONE else. The authors name is listed at the top if you want to be able to properly address your concerns. We asked him about this seemingly unique warning about Covid-19, and how he feels about being labelled both charismatic and progressive, The Bible teacher and founder of Living Proof Ministries speaks candidly about her knotted-up life, From living in open community with drug addicts to raising his family in a Cambodian slum, Craig Greenfield has spent decades living in some of the poorest places on earth. But I will stand by comments regarding Caine, Meyer and all those that are still playing on peoples emotions while passing off a diluted version of scripture, once again if Ive offended anyone it was not intentional. Christine Caine | (Photo: ChristineCain.com). Talk about losing sight of what REALLY matters.. I Love Christine Caines sermons Not you or anyone else will stop me from listening to her .. HAVE a nice blessed day , Maybe this doesnt have anything to do with the subject I know is that Christine came convinced my girlfriend that her parents were going to die if she didnt give her money and she ended up giving her entire savings on top of that Christine Caine told my girlfriend that her parents also had to give money but her parents did not want to give money so she tried to steal it from them and then got caught after that she bore owed money to give to christines king and Im talking thousands of dollars this is what Christine Caine did to me And my girlfriend I didnt know anything about it until it was all done Meanwhile Im watching my girlfriend go through hell because she wants all this money to give to Christine Caine anyway she possibly can get it she has turned into a nut case and there doesnt seem to be anything I can do about it so here I am Making my comment. Word? As someone said, i too am glad it is the Father who will be judging us all He alone can see the intentions of our heart. Paul wrote letters DIRECTLY to those who were out of linehe didnt write to everyone else BUT them. See what Paul says of their Ill: 13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. That is the CLEAR difference. Christine Caine usurps male authority and rebels against the clear word of the Bible. With a heart to share Christ and love people, Joyces messages help people in all walks of life to grow in their faith, learn to study the Bible, find healing from the wounds of life, get answers to lifes questions and encounter the love of God in a powerful way. But again, I think there is another way to inquire about someones search than to ask such condescending questions. You have yet to back up with scripture how what you are doing is the appropriate way of handling false teachers. All poster children of false teachers! My friend Alan Hirsch says: We have to read Jesus meaning just come back to that central place. People who post here are haters and not lovers of Christ! I am not at that point where I would feel confident before Him doing the same, so I only ask that you understand. I was honored when my former boss (who is male) told me that seeing the way I live my life inspired him to get back into his Bible and find a church for his family, as he had walked away from his faith after 12 frustrating years of Catholic school. What should our motive be in bringing confrontation? 7 Woe unto the world because of offences! I site that purposes to tear down people that are of the faith. 1. Many of the people you are tearing down are Gods people and are in the faith, running the race. I am sorry to say you seem like really unhappy, envious people who just seek to divide and bring fear, manipulate and imtimidate. .But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate (Revelation 2:2, 6). Lets focus on the Love of Jesus and love love lovebe Jesus out thereChristine Cain, Joyce and all those you judge..they love the Lordperhaps u should look inward friend. As followers of Jesus in whom all things were made, we acknowledge the Darug people as the Traditional Custodians of the Country where our Station is located. If you desire to bring hope, create change, and see yourself the way God sees you, this . In 2016, Christian author Carey Scott was the victim of plagiarism by a major celebrityinternational speaker and evangelist Christine Caine. Esther was at that place and at that time fulfilling Gods purpose to save the Jews, neither Caine nor Meyers are here to save Gods people. When you are calling names, questioning the faith of, or making assumptions about a person, you ARE making it personal. The reality is that while these religions are easily identifiable in places like the Congo, Haiti and Mongolia, they arent so easily identified here. There's not often this instant physical healing. Dont trust your heart, trust God. The issue is whether we believe God is who he says he is. Christine Caine and Victoria Osteen, from Lakewood Church , join Laurie Crouch on TBN's Praise in Jerusalem. The Holy Spirit draws people to Jesus, whether we understand it or know it, its just a mystery. If you know scripture you could in an instance see where Christine Caine is wrong. You can disagree with me, but I encourage you to remain teachable to whoever God puts in your pathit can be amazing what He can teach you through the most unlikely of sources. Think of it as Christ did when he fed the five thousand. If you mean warning of wolves behind pulpits, yes.Its called warning. When she first heard the diagnosis, Caine says her mind began to race "down the worst track like a runaway train, and I had to pull it back before it hit a wall and caused irreparable destruction." Inside the fastest growing religious movement on earth, Greg Boyd: The progressive preacher on spiritual gifts, racism and Covid prophecy, An incredible mission that is helping unemployed adults back to work, Craig Greenfield moved his family to a Cambodian slum. The smile on Christine Caine's face is as striking as the shock she felt when she uncovered the secret her parents kept from her. You will find multiple examples of Christine Caine teaching this way in the Additional Resources section at the end of this article. Judge for yourself who to follow. What do you think you can do differently to appeal to the masses that you should be trying to save?. A word of advice to those erroneously holding unto these beliefs, read your Bibles, put down your favorite idol for a second and read what Jesus said about: False teachers, false brethren, faulty theology, and the biggest of them all the coming judgement on these purveyors of lies and on the whole world itself. She is an ordained pastor and functions in that capacity. 2005 - sept. 20105 ans 9 mois. Lets get anchored. In your workplace, on your street, in your community, in your home, to be an authentic, passionate follower of the Lord Jesus Christ in this era in the West is extremely costly. They teach women and if men listen to them so be it. Courage, after all, is not the absence of fear. God speaks to male and femalehe does not discriminate. It is articles like this and people like you that make people afraid to go to church. The fear and our love of God compels us to defend His words, not mans. Premier consists of Premier Christian Media Trust registered as a charity (no. It is articles like this and people like you that make people afraid to go to church.. All three companies are registered in England & Wales with a registered office address of Unit 6 April Court, Sybron Way, Crowborough, TN6 3DZ . A woman was brought up to be in the home, and we weren't encouraged to read the Bible. I went from feeling as a nobody (given I am a single woman who lives in a different state from my father and brotherswe know what the traditional church thinks of women like me) to understanding that Christ saved me for a reason. I needed faith and friends surrounding me who were full of faith. "Some of my most precious ministry moments happened in those waiting rooms and hospitals," says Caine. It can come from things we have done, and from things others have done to us. And so that, as you could imagine, messed me up. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. Life and death is in the power of the tongue.nothing wrong with positive prayers and claiming blessings over our children. People seeking God care about others. I didn't really understand what was going on. Pastored by @ericbgeiger. The act of circle marking is occult in nature period. I'm basically a Greek Orthodox mother's nightmare: I didn't marry until I was 30, didn't have my first child until I was 35, and I travel the world and teach the Bible. YOU have an issue. Is the author of this post aware of the prominence of women in Jesus ministry? I think this is a site for pharisees. It's breathtaking to see what God has done in our offices around the world. Are you intimidated by the words, testimony, presence of a powerful woman of God? Beth Moore regularly travels to speaking and teaching engagements without her husband, as well as these others. 24 And the Lords bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will (2 Timothy 2:24-26). Beth Moore teaches the same thing, but oh my goodness! What shall we do if we see a sister following these false teachers? . So bnos na minha vida e de milhares!!! Wolf? 03422292). 14 For if you remain completely silent at this time, relief and deliverance will arise for the Jews from another place, but you and your fathers house will perish. (?) It amazes me all her supporters can only base their drive-by comments on dont judge, presupposing what God does while ignoring His written word, or the Love syndrome, we all need love, we must love, God is only about love, Jesus is only about love, youre not loving if youre judging. Christine Caine admits her spiritual roots were sprung from the bad fruit of heretics. What scriptures did you use? And there is one thing you must remember about wolves which separates them from Christians. 4So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.. I have seen and experienced the damage of hearsay, twisted words, misunderstood contexts, and the like, and I also am an avid believer that the Lord will hold me accountable for every word I say (or type), including how those words impact the reputation, feelings, faith, and guidance of others. It certainly has been the fight of my life to get to the place of trusting God to redeem the broken pieces of my past for his glory. BTW.I love the fact that not only yourself, but many women on here reply by teaching which word she supposedly is teaching wrong. Paul has nothing remotely nice to say about those to purport to speak for Christ. I do not talk about ministries I have not had any sort of direct contact with. I have a question Have you read Mark Battersons book The Circle Maker? Praise Jesus'. 2Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and encourage with every form of patient instruction. Its a Hollywood script! Visiting Sydney from her California base to attend Hillsong's Colour conference this week, Caine says she was "all in" for Christ from the moment she . I would beseech you to dump Caine and sit down with a bible and rethink what you have been taught. During the many moments that she sat in waiting rooms, Caine also questioned why some people had it worse than her and why waiting rooms are not seen as ministry opportunities by many. In other words, false teachers become subject to the churchs discipline. 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. I do not talk about ministries I have not had any sort of direct contact with. Here she is twisting a scripture that warns against false teachers, that is actually rebuking those who warn against false teachers something the false teachers often do. perverted and sinful, being self-condemned (Titus 3:11) There was this dark secret going on. Where do we see excommunication coming into play for false teachers? Its taken her a lifetime, but world-travelling preacher, author and rescuer of trafficking victims, Christine Caine, is finally free from shame. I am willing to bet you do NOT personally know the people you talk about on this site. Has the author of this article suddenly become God and we are unaware of it? Christine shares how she struggled with what happened to her and how her faith helped her overcome the shame and worthlessness she felt for so many years. A father of two who saw an opportunity for both his family and his business to get involved. You obviously have no clue what it is you are talking about and have never heard any of these people speak. Christine Caine partners with heretics, promotes them, and endorses them. All thats done here is to warn people!E of false teachers, false theology and false biblical practices, how is that in anyway being Pharisee? You are not confronting directly, and you know it. Gods will is very plainly stated in scripture. Shame eats away at the core of who we are. Dinsdale Young thinks that Priscilla may have been a believer before her husband, and that she won him for the Lord by her chaste conversation, or that perhaps hers was a primacy of character and service, or a more conspicuous intellectual ability, or that she may have been of nobler birth and social quality than Aquila. The dont judge paradigm doesnt apply when someone calls themselves Christian, usurps Gods word, and wants to play pastor. For all others, we must be clear about our rejection of their dangerous teaching. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. Ten weeks later, Caine testified that Jesus had healed the one part of her body that is "most used to do what God has called me to do.". Oh what horror! Your words are so wise Alison Jones: I am a Christian living in South Wales, UK, and ha Annie G.: It is not wrong to consecrate a day for the Lord, Greg: I agree. People are NOT heretics and false teacher because they preach something we do not gree with. There are soooo many books that have women leaders in them. Christine Caine regularly associates and partners in ministry with false teachers. What Im reading are a whole bunch of prideful Im SO right and they are SO wrong! posts that arent helping anyone but perhaps the ego of the posters. Grace be with thee. Not tell EVERYBODY ELSE but them. Christine decided to allow God to begin the process of healing and restoration. Now lets flip that around and look at it from our perspective. Warn them, lovingly. "I had a thyroidectomy last Tuesday. I understand a loving nudge in the right direction from a truly loving soul whos purpose in life is to point people towards heaven. You are way off base here and this is a pretty ridiculous article. I know several women pastors that teach to men. As I have confessed elsewhere, I have been in this position before. For a good laugh I guess. 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